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Post by Tomcat on Aug 24, 2011 2:52:47 GMT -5
Copy/paste is your friend
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Post by mika on Aug 25, 2011 22:56:59 GMT -5
Done it.
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Post by Tomcat on Aug 26, 2011 6:28:34 GMT -5
I've seen it
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Post by John on Aug 26, 2011 9:23:21 GMT -5
haha there seems to be losts of unanswered or poorly answered questions about u.d.o. PR and management (and i use those terms loosely!) on the guestbook. that's GOOD! people are waking up!
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Post by mika on Aug 26, 2011 9:59:07 GMT -5
It is funny that if I want UDO to be seen on the media, I need to write about that to a certain media every phuckin' time and that is not my JOB. And I think I do more work to get more people to the gigs of UDO than the UDO management etc. and I am not getting paid for that.
Maybe they pay too much for the management which does nothing and they do not have money to tour the USA, because ot that. Remember when they were at Nuclear Blast they did tour USA then.
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Post by John on Aug 26, 2011 10:19:51 GMT -5
but i also remember that the promotion SUCKED in 2000. i flew almost entirely across the u.s. to see u.d.o. only to find out the day of the show that it was cancelled! for the 3 days that i was there before the show, i listened to the only rock station in the area and didn't hear one thing about the show!
the only way i even heard about the show in san diego, where i finally got to meet udo, was Frank T. called me and invited me!! otherwise i would've known nothing about it. even then, we listened to the hard rock radio stations the whole time we were there and didn't hear one advertisement at all. the only promo i saw for that show was a black and white normal sized piece of paper flyer taped to the door of the club that they played at!! WOW, that's intense marketing if you ask me.
take in contrast all the advertisements, personal appearances, meet and greets, interviews, radio spots, emails, facebook entries, etc... from the band members that Accept did on the BOTN tour! there is no comparison. that's what kills me about u.d.o. they've never had good management or PR. the business decisions are terrible and usually wrong. d**n, it just pisses me off!
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Post by mika on Aug 26, 2011 11:41:03 GMT -5
Well, Accept gigs in the 90's in the USA were really badly informed too. I remember on some metal site one guy from the States said that he read about the Accept gig afterwards and asked me if that really was THE Accept. I said yes it was.
It still is a mystery when UDO was in Finland in 2004 on TUESDAY!!! I didn't see any advertisements anywhere. I read about the gig at udo online and tourdates. But me and Juho wrote about the gig in many sites and the place was packed!
I only saw one advertisement about the gig, that was on the wall of Nosturi (the place where the gig was) and funny thing is that the place is so far away from the center of Helsinki. ;D So practically no one saw it.
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Post by Tomcat on Sept 7, 2011 3:58:19 GMT -5
Mika, dunno if the reason is your personal effort or something else, but the gallery of the official FaceBook site of .U.D.O. filled up with posters of the forthcoming European shows yesterday. They look like the one I posted to the forthcoming gigs thread - only the dates and places are different.
I can accept the fact that fans have to help to promote their favorite bands if those bands are small names... But why does a fan have to promote a professional band - like .U.D.O.? Especially if the band consider the fans "not necessary anymore"...
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Post by mika on Sept 7, 2011 10:39:40 GMT -5
I don't know for that, but the posters in Tampere downtown for the very first time advertising UDO gig are most likely because of me.
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Post by John on Sept 7, 2011 14:51:22 GMT -5
Mika, dunno if the reason is your personal effort or something else, but the gallery of the official FaceBook site of .U.D.O. filled up with posters of the forthcoming European shows yesterday. They look like the one I posted to the forthcoming gigs thread - only the dates and places are different. I can accept the fact that fans have to help to promote their favorite bands if those bands are small names... But why does a fan have to promote a professional band - like .U.D.O.? Especially if the band consider the fans "not necessary anymore"... just more laziness. maybe the b.a.n.d. gets it from the management. because there is just laziness all of the b.a.n.d. these days!
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Post by Oddieman on Sept 11, 2011 15:44:33 GMT -5
And a lot of anger among the fans
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Post by John on Sept 11, 2011 21:57:42 GMT -5
And a lot of anger among the fans but since we're "not necessary", then it probably doesn't even bother them.
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Post by Oddieman on Sept 12, 2011 1:33:28 GMT -5
what do we say then? "f*ck'm"?
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Post by John on Sept 12, 2011 12:35:46 GMT -5
that's up to you man. i have done that though. not another dime from me.
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Post by Oddieman on Sept 12, 2011 15:51:24 GMT -5
Then again, I have never seen them live. I'll let you know what I think in a month or so
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