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Post by pzoltan on Jun 6, 2014 3:10:38 GMT -5
Ukranian border guards fleeing to Russia... Anymore questions about how the Ukranian gnovement treats it's people? It lets American mercenaries (Black Water) fight in it's army, it freezes pension salaries etc. Just a few more months, and the whole country will want to be the part of Russia. Hopefully Transcarpathia returns to Hungary soon...
I read that some super secret NATO documents where leaked about a nuclear strike on Russia, which also mentoins that the NATO forces has right to invade every European country which doesn't want to cooperate - even NATO members. Goal: global slavery.
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Post by Stas on Jun 6, 2014 4:08:02 GMT -5
Yes, who do not want to be a slave will be declared to be a terrorist. The strongest army is an official peacekeeper .
As for Ukraine , it's another example how they undermine peace. They say to one part of country that they are better than the other parts and are to have more rights. It these people do not have enough spirit inside to reject this seduce , they agree. Then step by step it comes to war.
The civil war now makes both sides bleed . Hundreds people died, infrastructure is getting destroyed.
Kiev army does not want to fire civilians mostly that's why Kiev use nazi-guard crews. Who are mostly punishers and can't win war. What they do now is just terror against cities-mass artillery fire and bombing using all they have even covering jet fire systems "Grad" ( new version of " Katusha").
It's a full-scale war against population. Kiev can't take control cities but Kiev can ruin cities-that what is going on. Insanity.
I'll put some photos.
Europe is getting another Yugoslavia.
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Post by Stas on Jun 6, 2014 11:14:02 GMT -5
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Post by Stas on Jun 8, 2014 5:48:43 GMT -5
News from Donbass ( bassin of Don)-
Kiev uses all the heavy weapon they can-
covering fire system "Grad"-
152mm cannon system "Acacia"-
240mm mortars-
Old good Soviet weapon - but used vs populations and cities.
About 100 km border with Russia controlled by self-defence- borders-gaurds mostly ran away.
Any reasonable man understand that with every bomb falling people turning thier backs on Kiev. Insanity.
Now the forecast is that this war just on the same positions will take last on for weeks and months.
Self-defender with his dog on lead
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Post by pzoltan on Jun 9, 2014 12:55:52 GMT -5
Putin is now challenged. His people will want him to send the Russian army to protect the citizens, but if he does, the NATO can act and make this conflict into a world war. I read about planned nuclear strikes on Russia. These guys are insane...
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Post by John on Jun 9, 2014 13:07:08 GMT -5
i don't really understand. if the people were in ukraine, but they wanted to still be russian citizens, why didn't they just moved to russia?! wouldn't that have made all of this avoidable?!
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Post by Stas on Jun 9, 2014 15:44:02 GMT -5
Zoltan, right on the matter again. It looks the same from Moscow. Putin can^t leave millions of civilians without any help. And he cant start full scale war because it means economical and social disaster in East Europe and in Western Russia.
So he chosed the balanced way. To make this war a war of no future for Kiev. If they wanna fight they can fight but hardly win.
As for Your opinion, John, it goes right in a way You say. As Ukrain steal their rights, they want to be a part of Russia or to be an independent state. But they are not to leave their homes and land. "We, the people"
Its not about the citizenship. Its about human rights. For instance I was born in the middle of Russia where there were about 1/3 people with Ukrainian roots, about 5 % Germans, about 5% Moslerms. But we always felt like one society. That s why it is typical to see people with name of one nation and sir-name of another one. Because their parents were of different roots.
Thats why "Russian" is not a nationality, its not blood- its just a community of people living in Russia. No matter where You come from, Ukraina ( it means "border") or not , rights are the same.
Russia or Ukraina - its just labels. And the talk is about contents.
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Post by Stas on Jun 20, 2014 1:19:06 GMT -5
Both sides are bleeding though scale is luckily still not national. The scale is regional. BTW there are volunteers from abroad joining seld-defence. For instance one guy from centre of Europe fighting in Donetsk region-addressing people: " I came to fight for You. Why not all of You do the same?" Streets of DonetskThe city of Kramatorsk where many of my friends were born and their parents still live there is ruined by artillery after 2months of war. But to ruin city does not mean to occupy it. Current news are - mega transport aircraft Il-76 got down in Lugansk had a brigade general from over-seas countrywith his head-quarter and some top- freelancers reaching to head a storm of Lugansk by Kiev nazi-guards. About 100 people on board got dead. It doesn't not look like a victory-it's looks like a horror of war. This night nazi-guard battalion " Eidar" got into an ambush , about 50 troops killed. It's reality. Hard to imagine this lands toured by UDO 3 months ago.
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Post by Stas on Jun 20, 2014 1:43:52 GMT -5
Kiev soldiers taking pics before the last flight near Il-76. There ware 3 planes Il-76 flying- in such conditions a commander uses the safest plane which lands number 2. This first plane landed, the second was shot, the last flew away. The remains-
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Post by Stas on Jul 3, 2014 5:14:02 GMT -5
The situations becomes a background in world media though the battle spirals up.
As for front-line news , Kiev army lost most part of their helys and about of dosen of planes so they cant use aviation widely more on. But they use artillery widely cause Ukraina has big amout of Soviet ammunition.
Covering fire system "Hurricane" ( the more migthy gen of "Grad" "used as well) -
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Post by Stas on Jul 15, 2014 3:59:12 GMT -5
The situation is a ful scale war in 2 regions. More powerfull weapons are used from day to day-
Lugansk under fire-
Military column got under covering fire of Grad-system :
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Post by mika on Jul 15, 2014 7:24:22 GMT -5
Is there any hope for peace?
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Post by Stas on Jul 15, 2014 9:03:44 GMT -5
That's great and vital question, bro. My buddy took his parents from Kramatorsk to Canada where he lives now. Because there is no safe houses there. As for Ukraine, it's the house divided now. Whatever the end is, it's expensive to rebuild cities . What I find rather bad is that this example shows how fastly and rapidly situation can come to war even in the centre of Europe. The position of International Monetary Fund is the same : we will give credits to Kiev provided that Kiev gets control over Donetsk and Lugansk ( 7 mln population). So Kiev push all the forces to war though it's lack of hot water even in Kiev even now in summer. It's absurd- they prefer a die-hard war without a constructive aim than a peace negotiations. My forecast is that situation will remain bloody till winter. If Kiev will not win the war , it's a big probability of another revolt in Kiev in late autumn, Poroshenko down, Jewish magnat Kolomoisky in power for president. By all means, the country collapses economically and in blood which is very and very sad. It's like Kain and Abel ( Of cause , later on the peace will come but people will not forget their dead relatives.
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Post by phil on Aug 11, 2014 12:43:26 GMT -5
People always want to live in peace. It is the non humans in government who make things hard for the rest of us. Why millions of people do not stand up to those few so called leaders and politicians is beyond me. Why would you allow yourself to be controlled by somebody else? The people, the citizens need to fight the good fight and charge toward freedom.
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Post by Stas on Aug 12, 2014 3:44:40 GMT -5
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