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Post by pzoltan on Sept 17, 2014 6:30:32 GMT -5
Stas, could you please summ up what is she talking about?
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Post by Stas on Sept 17, 2014 7:55:20 GMT -5
Ok. -Run on, ths way in the basement, be quite. Oh, my God,people , what is this life about ( Man : "stop cryibg" ). Bring out the truth how they abuse us ! What is such a war for? Who needs it? It is needed to sit and to talk, to comunicate not to kill,they kill miners and workers. Then man says that he and his wife ( as I got) work for government of DNR ( Donetsk People Republic) and then they show broken glass and tell about damaged (electrical) wires all around..... ....Its is complete disorder in many places there now. Its good that military activity got down but far not to zero. People Republics ( of Donetsk + Lugansk) fastly organise united system of power and economics now. People in Kiev did not want to participate in war , they wanted to integrate with Europe and to get benefits form Europe. US wanted to get full control over Kiev and they got it. But noone wanted to sponcor Ukraine widely while global crisys. The result is that in some regions population is imformed for no heating in the coming winter. As for all the country , the heating season will be delayed. As for crash of Malasian Boeing -as they found no proof of Russian fault, noone declared to be guilty Sad joke.
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Post by John on Sept 17, 2014 11:30:50 GMT -5
that's messed up. it was quite clear that the russians shot that jet down.
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Post by Stas on Sept 17, 2014 11:59:27 GMT -5
Oh, ye-if it's clear so no proofs are needed. That's clear beforehand.
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Post by Stas on Sept 21, 2014 10:46:34 GMT -5
A funny and very illustrating episode- a group of transit air passengers from Ukraina decided to sing Ukrainian hymn in the main airport of Moscow. They though that they would meet hate or would be arrested but they were just ignored. People can sing if they want , why not. Hymn
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Post by Stas on Nov 12, 2014 4:21:25 GMT -5
In general situation is stable. From the point of view of local people its tragedies everyday. But the the scale of event became much less and the situation evolves from military sphere more to administrative and economical. People need heat, food , and order.
As for Malaysian jet German artist Amely Rose made an interesting pic on the matter on Aug 1 -
Her pics look interesting , some trics of Andy Warhol are used -
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Post by John on Nov 12, 2014 11:56:07 GMT -5
wow. that hits home pretty deeply. thanks.
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Post by monstermanlt on Nov 13, 2014 2:14:44 GMT -5
...Glory to the heroes of the war against fascism Ukrainina...
It's awful. What a hell soldiers of foreign country are doing in Ukraine ?
Noworossija?
What? I don't know that country
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Post by Stas on Nov 14, 2014 4:46:35 GMT -5
Well, we definitely see common people in mass in the pics. Young or old , without uniform, armed by different weapons. Its not regular army. You can call it militia- armed people. Pic from Kiev side- ad with slogan "Just forward - to defend Mariupol". Pic from battlefieds-
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Post by phil on Dec 1, 2014 12:34:57 GMT -5
These are pictures and thoughts that do not make it to the news channels. It looks very brutal and gory.
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Post by Carr on Dec 1, 2014 12:54:11 GMT -5
I'm here just to say that not all the Russian people are happy that "Crimea is back" or "We can live well even with these sanctions". I can't stand our feud with the US and especially with Ukraine, they've been our good neighbors for a long time. The thing I can't understand, who needs this? Something wrong happens with the world.
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Post by Stas on Dec 3, 2014 7:42:51 GMT -5
Wow , thanks for an interest on the matter and for the opinions, guys.
The situations is mostly stable as a low-scale local war
Some pics-
Airport of Donetsk, the one that was absolutely new -
Local trops -
Local figther heavy wounded. As a girl holds a band of St. George , they support Novorossia.
Some pics from Kiev side.
Propaganda posters-
"Do not walk around, kill em"
Colorado bud is drawn cause it has the same colors like a band of St. George-
"I wish every slave to wake up in a soldier^s coffin'
"National Gaurds of Ukraina on ukrainisation "-
Kiev police after duty-
As for the fiture, Biden still personally controlls the situation while his visits to Kiev , so strategically this land comes to economical and social disorder .
I have many friends in Ukraina and I correspond to them regularly.
As for Krim, Government got great people"s support on the matter. The more people see the situation in Ukraina , the more they support Krim beeing a part of Russia. Not a single shot in Krim and tens of thousands deads in Donbass with thousands of Kiev^s soldiers who were sent to Donbass in summer. This a situation of no return.
As for mutual sanctions between West and Russia, they just shows reality. As in old story about dispute of warm sun and cold wind who will win, wam sun always wins. Noone wil sell relatives out. So sanction can change nothing.
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Post by pzoltan on Dec 12, 2014 11:55:11 GMT -5
Let me add a little comment here. I translated this little sentence from a Hungarian political blog's post:
"Brutal gas price raise, privatisation of 1500 companies, foreign ministers, one of them doesn't even speak Ukrainian."
It seems like that democracy just started in Ukraine. In 1-2 years, all of Ukraine will want to be the part of Russia, not just the Russian regions.
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Post by Stas on Dec 15, 2014 4:48:53 GMT -5
My friends inform that big cities are mostly good though some problems with electricity and heating take place. There is no big state property to privatise - the country is to survive though there is no inner resources. USA is coming to direct rule in Ukraina- New ministers from abroad- Minister of Finance- American citizen of Ukrainian origin- Natalia Yaresko Minister of a Economics- Lithuanian citizen - Ivaris Abramovichus Minister of Health - Georgian citizen- Alexandr Kviatoshvili All of them are American activists. Big airports in West of Ukraina are closed for civilian planes to make military air supply easier- Coming winter brings more survival problems than local war .
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Post by Carr on Jan 28, 2015 12:52:57 GMT -5
A guy who finished my school some years ago, died as a commander of the reconnaissance in Mariupol.
Media says he conducted military exercises and he died after he saved his whole team when the unexpected bombing started. His relatives say it's not true and he died for a different reason which media hides. Don't know whom should I trust, but anyway it's very bad that people die there. So the war kinda touched our area too..
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