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Post by John on Jun 16, 2011 9:44:45 GMT -5
Amen to that brother! mark is one hell of a cool dude.
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jenokellner
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Post by jenokellner on Jun 17, 2011 1:01:05 GMT -5
after listen Rev Raptor i hope that new album should be like TimeBomb -Animal House... but this album is like domiantor - mastercutor.ecc. I wish the same ,but their direction somewhat is different from ours Jeno
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Post by mika on Jun 17, 2011 5:50:56 GMT -5
The new one is so far from Mastercutor: it has no good melodies, not metal songs rather tech-NO-metal. I love Mastercutor, but hate the new one.
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Post by John on Jun 17, 2011 9:22:31 GMT -5
i love that term "tech-NO metal" hahaha
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Post by phil on Jun 17, 2011 9:25:42 GMT -5
HA Yeah.
The best song for U.D.O. in the last 10 years isn't as good as the worst song on Blood Of The Nations. It's like a pro football team playing against a bunch of grade school kids. Sorry Udo.
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Post by arachnoid on Jul 26, 2011 12:50:00 GMT -5
i cannot compare 2 albums. accept better. lot better. u.d.o. a child band compared.
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Post by fatcat on Jul 26, 2011 15:13:08 GMT -5
I can't really understand why everybody hates Rev-Raptor. I don't think it's a great album, but it is a good album. Don't think it deserves as much hate as it does. Most of the songs are catchy and have good riffs, Pain Man is one of my favorites.
But comparing Blood of the Nations to Rev-Raptor: BotN wins. It has way better production and better songs in general. But Rev-Raptor is not but IMO
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Post by John on Jul 26, 2011 16:09:44 GMT -5
the problem is that the first era of u.d.o. set the bar so high. even up through no limits and what i consider to the be the beginning of the end, holy. those were good albums.and although there are good songs in this era of u.d.o., it doesn't even compare to the first era.
then, for me at least, the final nail on the s.u.c.k. coffin for me was BOTN. to have that album be so good with really only a couple of months to write and record is beyond amazing. and it just proved to me how lazy and cheap u.d.o. has gotten.
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Post by Tomcat on Jul 27, 2011 1:02:04 GMT -5
I can't really understand why everybody hates Rev-Raptor. Because it's so boring to get the same bunch of dull songs (with different titles) every second year. Because they use drum computers and that's not Metal. Because there's so hard to find at least one "good enough" solo on the last three albums. Because each and every song is about "how cool it is to be a rock 'n' roll star" or "watch out, the cyber-dino-clowns want to rule this planet". Because all the albumcovers look like PC games... Is that enough? By the way... Not everyone hates it
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Post by fatcat on Jul 27, 2011 10:35:54 GMT -5
I can't really understand why everybody hates Rev-Raptor. Because they use drum computers and that's not Metal. By the way... Not everyone hates it Step 1: Put on a metal record from the last ten years, try to listen to the bass and snare drum Step 2: Realise that most bands do trigger drums, or use drum computers. It is a common thing to use triggers in metal, but very few bands trigg their entire kit, like U.D.O does.
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Post by mika on Jul 27, 2011 10:40:24 GMT -5
I must add the peculiar guitar sound as well to the dislike department.
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Post by Tomcat on Jul 27, 2011 11:06:49 GMT -5
fatcat: Marked your words and followed the steps... Put a Wuthering Heights CD to the player but the drums were powerful and thundering... Then put Blood of the Nations to the player but... you know the result.
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Post by John on Jul 27, 2011 11:16:52 GMT -5
ok, here we go again. the difference between triggers and kaufmann's casio...
triggers are put on the drums so that everytime the drumhead is hit, instead of recording the sound of the drum, it records the sound inside of the "brain" that is chosen by the engineer. this allows the drummer to really play the drums but for the sounds to always be the same and thus, much easier to mix.
the casio is where kaufup sits at his desk and programs some piece of sh*t drum machine to play the song. no human talent, creativity, feel, groove, imagination, heart, power, or dynamics are required or used. it's just kaufup and his keyboard. no drummers. no mics, no trigger sensors, no drum sticks, no anything except and ego that is out of control.
real men, real drummers, real engineers, and real producers aren't afraid to record real drums. if you have a drummer or engineer who knows how to tune drums and place mics, then there isn't anything to be afraid of. but if you're a lazy a$$ d*ckhead who wants to do things fast, easy, and cheap, then you use kaufup casio method.
believe me, if i could afford them, i would use triggers on my drumkit. but the good ones, the ones that can sense stick dynamics are very expensive.
so, to sum up what we've learned today...
Triggers - played by a human kaufup casio - programmed by an egotistical maniac. no talent required.
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Post by mika on Jul 27, 2011 11:24:46 GMT -5
I say once again one man's name: Michael Wagener!
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Post by John on Jul 27, 2011 11:27:41 GMT -5
Drum triggers, used on drums instead of microphones. they are the red things in this pic... . . . . and now, drum computers a.k.a. the kaufup casio. it's a friggin computer. drums or drummers need not apply. the infamous dr-880
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