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Post by Stas on Sept 3, 2021 0:38:58 GMT -5
So , as for Laurenne - Louhimo : its a good metal album with heavy sound and great voice, some hits would make it even better, but my mark at the moment is : good.
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Post by Tomcat on Sept 3, 2021 2:06:21 GMT -5
Mike Oldfield - In the Beginning & Let There Be Light
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Post by mika on Sept 3, 2021 6:35:20 GMT -5
This is how Judas Priest should sound like:
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Post by John on Sept 3, 2021 6:36:21 GMT -5
i'm still on my Warkings kick.
right now is Ave Roma. this band is so killer.
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Post by Tomcat on Sept 3, 2021 7:06:49 GMT -5
^^Checking that Manimal song.
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Post by Tomcat on Sept 4, 2021 15:50:56 GMT -5
Mike Oldfield - Incantations Part Two (Remastered Stereo Mix)
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Post by Tomcat on Sept 6, 2021 4:35:18 GMT -5
Chris Rea - Tell Me There's a Heaven (2019 Remaster)
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Post by Tomcat on Sept 7, 2021 8:10:52 GMT -5
Metal Never Dies Trying to like this song...
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Post by mika on Sept 7, 2021 8:19:03 GMT -5
Metal Never Dies Trying to like this song... And no successs? I do not have success in liking this song.
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Post by Tomcat on Sept 7, 2021 8:21:21 GMT -5
No, no success
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Post by azwayne on Sept 8, 2021 3:20:42 GMT -5
One of my favorite classical pieces... Alexander Borodin, "In The Steppes of Central Asia" Not the most exciting work, no. Just a d**ned fine piece of music. Absolutely beautiful! The local community orchestra performed it a year ago or thereabouts but I missed the concert!
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Post by Tomcat on Sept 11, 2021 7:01:56 GMT -5
Mike Oldfield - Incantations Part One (Remastered Stereo Mix)
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Post by azwayne on Sept 12, 2021 18:51:30 GMT -5
Peter Schilling -- Major Tom
All the way back from 1982. This song fascinates me. It's never really been a favorite but I find myself drawn to it nonetheless. There's nothing about the lyrics that says this should be a popular tune. In fact, in many respects, they're downright depressing and not the least bit confusing but it's still an awesome tune.
Some observations (John, being a drummer, you'll particularly appreciate this, as will Fred for other reasons.)
The kick *is* marking quarter notes but you can't listen for the kick drum or for the bass guitar to find the beat. In fact, you need to focus on the pulsed synth and/or the guitar line. That's because during the verse, the kick is off the beat. Off the beat, not the UP beat. That's helping to bring tension to the verse. The vocalist is also singing sixteenth notes during the verse and while it is aligning onto the downbeat, he's not emphasizing the third beat but almost always a sixteenth either side of it. He's also singing fairly softly. At certain points in one or the other verses (the back half, usually), there is a snare but it's more decorative (tone) than rhythmic. It's almost as if he's consciously choosing to de-emphasize the beat during the verse. In that respect, it's almost Reggae in its form. Notice that when you do hear a crash cymbal that its well in the background. There's also a hi hat that's being used at times when the snare is not that's very subtle and interesting.
Then comes the chorus and everything changes. NOW you get the four on the floor with the snare opposing the kick and we hear a more typical sort of rock sound however even this is not quite so. Listen to the vocal. Now he's sing basically straight quarter notes (but still varying slightly at just the right time) and that is maintaining a certain amount of tension. It isn't until you get to the very end, when there "Ah"s come in that you really release all the tension. Notice carefully that when you do get to that descending line that he pauses at the end of the first one but ONLY the first one. It's not pause/no-pause alternation like you might expect. It's just used to transition into the "repeat and fade" outro.
Another way to look at the chorus is that we change to double tempo with the kick on 1 and 3 and the snare on 2 and 4, your standard back beat rhythm. That makes the vocals singing half time to that tempo which would be an interesting choice in and of itself and NOT unheard of. (I often think that we're looking at modern tempos the wrong way, that we're often not really marking 160bpm but, rather, subdividing 80bpm if you REALLY sit down and look at it.)
Now, this was done back in 1982, when no one in the music business was even *THINKING* about digital and EVERYTHING was done to a multi-track recorder. Can you imagine trying to record a tune like this and actually being able to get the timing down good enough for a commercial recording??? Nightmarish! After getting the scratch track down, I have to think that they did the guitar and synth together first and THEN did the percussion and other overdubs on top of that.
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Post by John on Sept 13, 2021 7:48:32 GMT -5
wow! great review of that song. you're a deep thinker. i like that. you're right, this song is not driven by the drums at all, which is really strange. there is a lot going on here. i would love to have been fly on the wall when they were writing all of these parts and hear how those conversations went. there's no "easy way out" for any of the instruments on this song.
np: Motley Crue - Dragstrip Superstar - this is not a good song at all.
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Post by azwayne on Sept 13, 2021 18:34:14 GMT -5
Of course, I'm reading that as "the kick drum is doing four beats per measure." If you examine it as the kick doing 1 and 3 in the chorus and 2 and 4 in the verse, it changes a bit. I haven't actually looked at the structure but based on where the chord changes are happening, it seems like the former is more correct. Problem in figuring this out is that, counting out the bars, it doesn't seem to want to adhere to a form I'm familiar with in either case.
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