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Post by Zaha on Jun 1, 2011 9:50:57 GMT -5
Better sales of Rev-Raptor could mean more money for the production of new album and also new producer... But to be realistic, I don't think that's gonna happen.
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Post by metalwarrior on Jun 1, 2011 9:56:56 GMT -5
Better sales of Rev-Raptor could mean more money for the production of new album and also new producer... But to be realistic, I don't think that's gonna happen. I agree. This is the way they like, and albums sell. I don't expect back to the traditional heavy metal anymore. But as long as live sound is good, I'll go the gigs.
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jenokellner
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Post by jenokellner on Jun 1, 2011 9:58:32 GMT -5
This is the tragedy when "The musicians" don't give a d**n about thier fan's opinion !
Jeno
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Post by John on Jun 1, 2011 10:23:16 GMT -5
Better sales of Rev-Raptor could mean more money for the production of new album and also new producer... But to be realistic, I don't think that's gonna happen. you're right. it's not. the older most loyal fans are screwed. we'll have to "Accept" it.
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Post by Tomcat on Jun 2, 2011 1:11:50 GMT -5
Better sales of Rev-Raptor could mean more money for the production of new album and also new producer... But to be realistic, I don't think that's gonna happen. Better sales mean more money for more computers... Read what Stefan says about the sound and the production: "I can't help it, I like it a lot! I can’t work against my taste. The way the last three albums sound... coincidentally, I have listened to these three albums yesterday to compare the development of the sound. So I am getting closer to what I really like very much. Even though I know I’m not yet where I want to be. But that’s MY path which I want to tread even extremer, and want to go even much extremer live. It was the same in the past when I sat at the drums. I have always been looking for ways to progress because I didn’t want to bash the same set of drums all the time. Today, I don’t want to stick to the same Marshall, I want to go further. It will stay our music as we compose it… Well, we are not able to do anything else (laughs). Still I try to make use of the modern tools in production as well as live technics. You can be a great carpenter, but with a dulled saw you can’t manage to make a dovetail! With good tools, and that’s all I see in computer technics, you can do things nowadays that would have been much more complicated in the past. But as I said, I like it, I get beaten up a lot for it. I don’t care, I can live with that and I believe I am on the right track."Seems to me like he'd like to handle the production on the next Disastor album as well...
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jenokellner
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Post by jenokellner on Jun 2, 2011 1:26:08 GMT -5
Sad Jeno
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Post by Tomcat on Jun 2, 2011 1:32:17 GMT -5
Yes it is
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Post by donglas on Jun 2, 2011 3:39:44 GMT -5
As a musician it must be so much better to just concentrate on the music. I play the guitar myself and my drummer is the one handeling the computer and it is so great don't bothering about the recording, I can just be creative.
If Stefan used the time recording with his guitar instead we could get greater stuff from UDO!
Underworld, pain man,true born winners and time dilator is soo much fillers and I belive a producer from "the outside" would had told them.
Mat Sinner is my first choice!!!,,,What is yours?
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Post by pzoltan on Jun 2, 2011 4:55:11 GMT -5
Better sales of Rev-Raptor could mean more money for the production of new album and also new producer... But to be realistic, I don't think that's gonna happen. Better sales mean more money for more computers... Read what Stefan says about the sound and the production: "I can't help it, I like it a lot! I can’t work against my taste. The way the last three albums sound... coincidentally, I have listened to these three albums yesterday to compare the development of the sound. So I am getting closer to what I really like very much. Even though I know I’m not yet where I want to be. But that’s MY path which I want to tread even extremer, and want to go even much extremer live. It was the same in the past when I sat at the drums. I have always been looking for ways to progress because I didn’t want to bash the same set of drums all the time. Today, I don’t want to stick to the same Marshall, I want to go further. It will stay our music as we compose it… Well, we are not able to do anything else (laughs). Still I try to make use of the modern tools in production as well as live technics. You can be a great carpenter, but with a dulled saw you can’t manage to make a dovetail! With good tools, and that’s all I see in computer technics, you can do things nowadays that would have been much more complicated in the past. But as I said, I like it, I get beaten up a lot for it. I don’t care, I can live with that and I believe I am on the right track."Seems to me like he'd like to handle the production on the next Disastor album as well... Ohh... my... God... this is sounds horrible and frighteningly...
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Post by Tomcat on Jun 2, 2011 8:07:40 GMT -5
Rev-Raptor is not on last week's Hungarian top 40...
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Post by pzoltan on Jun 2, 2011 9:19:34 GMT -5
Yeah just because we just get in the country. My Rev-Raptor mailed today, I'll get it tomorrow.
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Post by mika on Jun 2, 2011 11:10:01 GMT -5
The album charts haven't been released in Finland yet.
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Post by psychdoc on Jun 2, 2011 12:53:08 GMT -5
Better sales of Rev-Raptor could mean more money for the production of new album and also new producer... But to be realistic, I don't think that's gonna happen. Better sales mean more money for more computers... Read what Stefan says about the sound and the production: "I can't help it, I like it a lot! I can’t work against my taste. The way the last three albums sound... coincidentally, I have listened to these three albums yesterday to compare the development of the sound. So I am getting closer to what I really like very much. Even though I know I’m not yet where I want to be. But that’s MY path which I want to tread even extremer, and want to go even much extremer live. It was the same in the past when I sat at the drums. I have always been looking for ways to progress because I didn’t want to bash the same set of drums all the time. Today, I don’t want to stick to the same Marshall, I want to go further. It will stay our music as we compose it… Well, we are not able to do anything else (laughs). Still I try to make use of the modern tools in production as well as live technics. You can be a great carpenter, but with a dulled saw you can’t manage to make a dovetail! With good tools, and that’s all I see in computer technics, you can do things nowadays that would have been much more complicated in the past. But as I said, I like it, I get beaten up a lot for it. I don’t care, I can live with that and I believe I am on the right track."Seems to me like he'd like to handle the production on the next Disastor album as well... While this is somewhat sad for many of us to read this, it can't really be a surprise to anyone. I could be off the mark, but it really seems to me that the leader of U.D.O. is Stefan K, and not Udo, who really seems to be more just the lead singer of the band. Therefore, as long as U.D.O. remains Stefan K's baby, there will continue to be no perceived need for an outside producer, and as presented in his comments, no need for a less industrial sound since Stefan really seems to want to make U.D.O. sound like Rammstein or KMFDM. Perhaps it's the pneumonia talking, but I am willing to take a softer stance on this issue than I was a month ago. U.D.O. still has Udo's voice, and the guitar leads are progressing. The one thing though that I will not compromise on is sloppiness in song editing and absence of creativity. For anyone who doubts me, please listen to "Speed Demon" from Dominator, focusing on the verse and bridge riffs and vocal melodies, and then listen to "Renegade" and "Motor-Borg" on "REV-Raptor", focusing on the same elements. They are exactly the same. Not just similar sounding, but note for note the same. I can only call this artistic laziness, and that is unacceptable to me. I really hope that someone in Stefan K's circle has the cajones to point this out to him so that this kind of lapse won't happen again.
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Post by metalwarrior on Jun 2, 2011 13:13:13 GMT -5
^well said! I'm not expecting good albums anymore, but I expect good gigs. However, they will be in the danger zone too if the setlist includes more and more the new U.D.O.
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Post by mika on Jun 2, 2011 13:17:54 GMT -5
^well said! I'm not expecting good albums anymore, but I expect good gigs. However, they will be in the danger zone too if the setlist includes more and more the new U.D.O. Normally they have played something like 3 - 4 songs from the new album, 1 - 2 from the previous and then the same songs as always. However this new tour setlist is a thing I am waiting for.
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