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Post by John on Jan 28, 2015 13:07:59 GMT -5
A guy who finished my school some years ago, died as a commander of the reconnaissance in Mariupol. Media says he conducted military exercises and he died after he saved his whole team when the unexpected bombing started. His relatives say it's not true and he died for a different reason which media hides. Don't know whom should I trust, but anyway it's very bad that people die there. So the war kinda touched our area too.. sorry to hear that man. i know, war sucks and we just don't know who to believe about it anymore.
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Post by Stas on Jan 28, 2015 13:51:37 GMT -5
I really share Your sorrow, Dima. Scouts are elite and scout commander is more mighty than a tank. They are first to suffer for us all. God, save him. Recently I was really surprised to see my friend who live in Zurich in all TVs on prime time: when Kiev leader Poroshenko visited Zurich, my friend was there holding a signature " I am Lugansk. Event in Ukraina is growing with tens of soldiers dying everyday and cities with hundred of thousands of habitants are being severely bombarding. From the other hand its a rare example of a war in last decades when Russia now is fighting not in soldiers blood of heroes but by well equipped small groups of profi troops mostly helping local guys to organise army . Though every loss is a real tragedy.
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Post by Stas on Jan 28, 2015 16:28:36 GMT -5
Current pics-
Kids in a basement in Donetsk-
Funeral of Kiev soldier killed in Donetsk airport-
Scouts-
Ukrainian fortified territory near Donetsk-
This ukrainian bomb not for blow-
Local troops took a place which was calles airport of Donetsk-
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Post by Stas on Jan 28, 2015 16:53:17 GMT -5
Streets of Donetsk- Troops of Donetsk shooting mortar- Horror of war- suburbs of Matiupol covered by Grad system- Kiev BMPs ready to move- Both sides look strong enough to hold position strategically so it looks like masscre is to go on for months.
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Post by pzoltan on Jan 29, 2015 4:17:11 GMT -5
Another Hungarian solider died in this stupid war, like my people has anything to do with it. Ukraine must leave Hungarians and Rusyns in Transcarpathia alone with their poop.
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Post by Stas on Jan 31, 2015 10:19:33 GMT -5
Thats for sure, this war hurts all the nearby lands. Medal found a hero- Americam general Ben Hodges, commander of American land forces in Europe,presents Ukrainian solder who lost his hand and got a medal instead- $9 medal instead of a hand Severe battles near Donetsk where about 8.000 Kiev soldier try to defend strategic platzdarm: modern tank of Kiev army- BTR burnt- 11 Kiev soldiers joining local batallion- Example of Kiev position hiding near big habited house- New reality-
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Post by pzoltan on Jan 31, 2015 11:27:08 GMT -5
I wonder where a country like Ukraine gets modern Western weapons when it has serious economical problems. The regime is already a maffia organized olgarchy society. I wouldn't be suprised if Kiev spends the money from EU and IMF for weapons and to feed it's bloodhounds. They are "so Decadent".
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Post by Stas on Jan 31, 2015 12:20:53 GMT -5
Yes, Kiev army has no Western weapons. They use old good Soviet weapon and ammunition. Some units of modern tanks are exeptions. This war is not modern one - for instance in war on 08.08.08 Gerogian army had much more advanced techs- really modernised tanks t-72, avaiation, modern systems of communication and electronic noise systems. A "do or die" army of blizkrieg to make fast strike. So that conflict lasted for about 5 days. Kiev army now is at a half-year war and it means heavy and long lasting load on finance system and all the society. From the other hand people of Donbass suffer much more. So the face of this war is about the same- Kiev army prefer to fire cannons and rockets at safe distances, soldiers mostly dont wanna fight "face-to-face". Thats why they took no big cities though made big destructions. Any effort of storm leads to big casulties. Moreover , Kiev lost all the aviation and has no recources to feed soldies. Now 8.000 Kiev soldiers are almost circled betwween Donetsk and Lugansk and its a question - will they hold thier position or will they be broken in this surrounding- Donetsk under fire- Donets armors- Kiev trooper deadshot-
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Post by John on Jan 31, 2015 17:34:05 GMT -5
just as a side note, i've always kind of wondered this, when countries are at war like this, how do people that live there get car insurance or property insurance? i know it seems trivial but i've just always thought of that kind of stuff.
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Post by Stas on Feb 2, 2015 2:38:43 GMT -5
Sadly no ensurance and no security.
Natural rights and anarchy - that's why people try to organize on their own to protect their families and property.
Donetsk-
A video from a frontline showimg strong fortification of Kiev army taken by storm . Soldiers mostly ran away, one armor burnt , several BMPs ( 2 white strypes means Kiev side) are captured and moved out by a tank.
A country near Donetsk taken by storm by local troops
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Post by John on Feb 2, 2015 11:58:14 GMT -5
wow. how depressing.
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Post by pzoltan on Feb 2, 2015 13:01:03 GMT -5
If I may ask Stas, please next time hide those pictures (don't use the image tag option) so if someone comes to this forum doesn't have to throw out or be scared. How many lifes that war will take? I read today that the local Russians want to raise their army to 100.000.
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Post by pzoltan on Feb 2, 2015 15:01:11 GMT -5
This was paper was sent to the Hungarian soliders fighting in the Ukrainian army. To the unit which trapped in the cauldron of Deblacevo. The Russian fighters speak to the Hungarians in their mother tongue telling them that this is not their war, and they are fighting against the Ukranian regime for the freedom of Transcarpathia as well.
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Post by Stas on Feb 3, 2015 10:15:04 GMT -5
Yes, circle under Debalcevo with about 8.000 Kiev troops blocked is a big event and its vital to minimise people loss. As for common soldiers they are allowed to leave their position without weapon. They can move to Kiev region , to Donetsk or to Russia at their will.
Soldiers with nazi tatooes have to be interrogated for crimes. In the pic we see such a man who tried to remove his nazi tatoo with a brick-
Tactic mega-rocket "Point-U" shot down by air- defence system of Donetsk-
Kiev troopers bury their deads-
Exodus from destroyed Uglegorsk town to Donetsk-
Kiev, front batallion demand more weapons , money and men-
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Post by John on Feb 12, 2015 13:06:10 GMT -5
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