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Post by mika on Apr 3, 2012 12:06:12 GMT -5
Me too.
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Post by John on Apr 3, 2012 12:33:51 GMT -5
i can think of 100 better things to spend your money on. throwing it into a garbage disposal comes to mind first.
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Post by mika on Apr 3, 2012 12:40:38 GMT -5
I think you can get a porn dvd for a cheaper price and enjoy it more... ;D
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Post by pzoltan on Apr 3, 2012 13:29:36 GMT -5
I think you can get a porn dvd for a cheaper price and enjoy it more... ;D Hahahaha that is awesome mika!!! Yeah and you can becme the MasturbaTOR, so you don't have to leave the -TOR tag, hahahaha!!!
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Post by mika on Apr 3, 2012 14:30:50 GMT -5
Ha, ha...you kill me Zoli. ;D
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Post by Tomcat on Apr 4, 2012 6:03:38 GMT -5
;D
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Post by John on Apr 4, 2012 8:31:34 GMT -5
Zoli is on fire! hahahahahaha great one!
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Post by Stas on Apr 4, 2012 10:55:57 GMT -5
Foooo, men, its harmfull sin.
Like striking wall by head - making harm for Yourself.
Like drinking poison, spoon by spoon.
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Post by mika on Apr 4, 2012 11:22:48 GMT -5
Protectors of Terror...Catholics released a book of 1000 sins in the 90's. Accept made a song out of it: Protectors Of Terror. Hypocrisy that what it is...I would be more alert with some priests, pastors, reverends, vicars etc. who take advantage of the little children. Even the crusades were sin.
Some years ago at the university of Oulu and especially from its library the most stolen study books were the teology books and law related books. That tells something...
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Post by Stas on Apr 4, 2012 11:38:55 GMT -5
Yes, Jesus said "many will call themselves by my name". It is not sufficient to wear cross to be Christian. But comiing to church we do not come to priest, we come to Jesus. We repent to him. Whatever Vatican lost, its is still a Holy Church with priest handput from Jesus. But it acts not automatically , only if man believe and repent. So, if we are not hypocriticians, we will feel that soul is less heavier- come and see.
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Post by John on Apr 4, 2012 12:56:47 GMT -5
and men were designed to want to look at boobs and vagina all the time. it in every species on the planet.
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Post by Tomcat on Apr 4, 2012 14:06:01 GMT -5
Hahaha! That picture is f**king awesome ;D
Mika, what book are you talking about? (book of 1000 sins)
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Post by Stas on Apr 4, 2012 14:08:19 GMT -5
We are not animals to rule only by instincts- we are creatures of spirit.
John, there is a word, I dont know the English analog, in Russian its "sovest" coming from "sovet"- "advise".
Its a sence of truth inside every man. He feels guilty when doing contrary to this inner advice.
I remember Sopranos serial, when wife of Soprano came to black priest. She asked what to do. The answer was- " You feel inside the line when You are guilty. NDo not cross the line not to feel guilty"
A great and simple advice.
There are 2 lines-
Old Testament- a very rude lbut right line- not to do bad acts, bad deeds. New Testament- much higher line, the ideal line- even not to have bad thought.
Example- before the kill, man will think about it, fight with desire to kill. When he loses, he accept this desire and start to prepare weapon.
Just the same as cheating- Jesus said "Who looks at woman with lust, had been already cheated with her in his heart".
These sins harm our soul just like poison hurts body. Sin is not violation of law, it is harm for soul.
And every one has freedom to agree or to disagree. Just like we have freedom to drink poison or to drink water.
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Post by mika on Apr 4, 2012 14:25:03 GMT -5
Hahaha! That picture is f**king awesome ;D Mika, what book are you talking about? (book of 1000 sins) Well, when Accept toured in 1993 and visited Helsinki. In one radio program Udo was interviewed plus there was one interview in Metal Hammer where they spoked about the book of 1000 sins or something like that released by the Catholics. Protectors Of Terror was loosely about that, but mostly about the hypocrisy. The video of that song is also very descriptive. Part of the lyrics: you pay for your salvation (<--referring ofcourse to indulgences) you have to bend your knees in pain no surrender to temptation and you're a slave to the eye of the Lord... I am a Christian myself, evang.lutheran, but somehow in a way not so strict. If thinking of life (which is for a christian)which is a gift from God...or a gift in general. To me it is important to celebrate/have joy about having a life and enjoy the life with one big rule: do not hurt other people and treat other people like you would like to be treated. If we go to a level where we start to point a finger toward other people, it's the wrong way. And yeah, the one who hasn't done any sin, throw the first stone. Religion is a good thing in general, but then again lots of cruelty is done in the name of religion. On a micro level: ostracizing family member(s) if they don't agree on that and that religion "brand". In that kind of situations love is quite far.
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Post by John on Apr 4, 2012 15:45:13 GMT -5
right. humans are not animals. that's why we're taught to control our urges and that's what separates us from them. but the instinct is still always there to at least look. that's where i fall.
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